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How can this be?

Stop the Beach Road markets

More on UK pensions

Dear Sir;

In your September 3 issue you printed two letters on this issue, both of which require a response in order to achieve some form of balance.

I would begin by offering my sincere apologies to other readers of these columns who are not affected by this outrageous situation, but I hope you will bear with me in responding. I realise it could become something of a bore, but major issues of principle are at stake.

Firstly, we have a contribution from Rob Maynard in the UK, who proceeds to give us a lesson about the history of the UK State Pension, as though we didn’t understand it. He reminds us that its uprating every year is geared to inflation in the UK and that the fact a person has paid for forty years has no relevance, and then concludes by telling us how tough it is people in the UK during this time of global recession.

Sounds convincing? OK well here are a few facts he should know.

1. Over the last 4 years the pound abroad has, to a large extent, been deliberately devalued by the UK government and has lost around 25% of its value against almost all currencies, certainly the Thai baht. The pound in the UK has not been devalued in the domestic market. So, the UK pensioner living almost anywhere abroad, who is receiving his/her pension in sterling, has seen at least a 25% drop in purchasing value and that takes no account of local inflation. Also, any savings accrued by such a pensioner to subsidise the cost of living now attract about 0.2% interest. The UK Treasury makes no secret of its strategic long term policy to maintain a weak pound to help exports and ultra low interest rates to encourage consumer spending in the UK! The logic of this is that my paltry interest is subsidising low interest rates for UK house purchases, etc.

As the UK Finance Minster recently stated, “Savers are the innocent victims of our policy to stimulate the UK economy.”

2. To qualify for a UK state pension used to require around 46 years of contributions. Now that figure is, I believe, 30 years. Irrespective, I paid from age 15 to 64 without a break, that is 49 years, the last 3 of which were not required to qualify, but had to be paid.

3. The judgment of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), which of course was only a majority decision, based its conclusion on two main issues. Firstly, it agreed the UK State Pension was a Social Security benefit and also that UK pensioners living abroad make no contribution to the UK economy.

This I find strange. In addition to my UK frozen state pension I also receive a modest private pension on which I pay UK income tax every month, as do many others. Indeed, for the last three years I have received a tax rebate, caused by the Inland Revenue over-taxing me, a rebate incidentally I would not have obtained had I not challenged the figures. So, on the one hand we have the UK Pension Agency denying me a modest indexation on my state pension and, on the other, the Inland Revenue overcharging me by 300 pounds in the last financial year.

This then begs the question, who is subsidizing whom? Is my income tax subsidising Rob Maynard in his time of hardship in the UK? Or is he subsidising me in Thailand as he implies?

Let’s be absolutely clear. This campaign about pensions is based on the indefensible principles regarding the inconsistencies of the UK government in the method it uses to implement uprating. If I moved to the Philippines, the USA, or a host of other countries I would get the increase. Here in Thailand we do not, and there is no logical defence the government can or have deployed, except historical precedence. (I have seen the video of the ECHR hearings and read the transcripts of the judgments.)

Turning now to the second letter on this matter entitled ‘Change in tactics needed’ which suggested we should lobby the Thai government to enter a bi-lateral agreement with the UK, thus ensuring uprating.

I agree fully with J. H. that we have now to employ different tactics, but I fear it would be a waste of time approaching the Thai government, even if they were sympathetic. The UK would never agree to such an arrangement. As the barrister representing the government at the ECHR stated, “We would only enter into such agreements if they were considered mutually beneficial.” In other words, if there are 50,000 UK pensioners living in Thailand we need 50,000 Thai pensioners living in the UK. Clearly that is not going to happen.

No, the only way this matter can be resolved is by the UK House of Commons being shamed into treating all UK pensioners abroad in an equal manner. It does not require new legislation, just an amendment to the existing procedure. The only defence the government have put forward in addition to the historical one, is the cost - nothing else.

This matter has to be brought to the attention of ordinary MP’s, in a structured way. Many MP’s are unaware of the issue and double standards which are being employed in respect of UK pensioners living abroad, whose ‘rights’ incidentally, fall well short of an illegal immigrant in the UK.

I’ll just leave you with this thought: Members of Parliament in the UK have a very generous pension’s scheme that is paid from their salaries. The salaries of MP’s are paid by the UK taxpayer and those living abroad such as me.

If an MP chooses to live in Thailand on retirement, his pension would be automatically uprated each year and the money for such an uprating would be from my income tax.

I bet they don’t even know that, but would be a bit embarrassed if it appeared in the UK newspapers.

DW
Nongprue


Sky train

Editor;

I read with some amusement the article in last week’s Mail about the plans for a sky train in Pattaya. What will they think of next?

For those worried about this potential development and the years of chaos it would bring remember this. It took 40 years to build a much needed airport for Bangkok. On a more local scale the authorities still seem incapable of making the “major decision” to make safe places to cross 2nd Road, a major concern for thousands of tourists and locals every day. I’m sure the baht bus drivers association will soon put a stop to this silly idea anyway.

If only the local powers that be could focus on the small, inexpensive but achievable improvements to Pattaya, I’m sure the tourists would be back in their droves, just like in the good old days.

Scottish George


How can this be?

Editor;

In the last Pattaya Mail, there is coverage on a guy named ‘Toon’ who just got busted for the 4th time with drugs. How is it that he can be on the loose after the first 3 busts? It does not make sense. Are the police working or just taking up space? Granted, they get paid peanuts, but they knew that before becoming policemen. Lock him up and throw away the key!

But, they sure are ‘johnny-on-the-spot’ where wearing a helmet when motorbiking is lacking... something is really out of balance here! Pay these police a decent salary, please!

Hyde Parke
Pattaya


Stop the Beach Road markets

Editor;

I’ve just returned from a few weeks’ vacation and am happy to be home in Pattaya again. I picked up a couple back issues of Pattaya Mail to catch up, and an article in the September 3 issue has prompted me to write my first-ever letter to the Mailbag. I am writing to offer my sincere thanks and support to efforts of the “Love Pattaya / Protect Pattaya Group.” These folks are absolutely correct in their objection to the disgusting recent increase in outdoor market fairs along the ocean side of Beach Road, which are destroying one of Pattaya’s few remaining in-city spots of beauty. I just wish I had been in town to stand alongside the protestors as they joined together on Beach Road recently to complain about this growing encroachment on Pattaya’s beach community environment.

I’m a long-time resident, and one big reason I chose to move here in the first place is Pattaya’s unique situation as a city that also has an ocean beach right here in the center of town. This is an environmental blessing that should be protected and enhanced, not sacrificed to the seemingly endless frenzy to convert every square millimeter of space in this town to a “market fair.”

I have personally seen the ugliness caused by these markets. Central city is my neighborhood and to me there is no better day than a walk along Beach Road, admiring the sand and sea. This often includes a stop at one of the beach bars to enjoy a cool brew on a hot day and admire the scenery, thinking how lucky I am to live in this special place. But when these hawker/vendors set up shop on the sea side of Beach Road, you can’t even see the ocean or beach from just across the street. What a waste!

And the irony is that these markets are all about selling low class junk trinkets and other bits of crap, for which there are already many-many-many such markets in Pattaya - just across the street on the other side of Beach Road, all along Second Road, up and down South Road including the Tuesday/Friday market - etc, etc, etc.

Whoever in the government mistakenly feel that these markets will somehow “revive tourism” are sadly misinformed. Tourists come here for many reasons, certainly not just for cheap-charlie shopping at cut-rate knickknack tents; many come here to relax and enjoy the unique beach/city atmosphere. These kinds of tourists (I’ve talked with many of them) are annoyed at being forced to hassle with slow moving crowds and endless shop tents that combine to block off entrance to the beach and obscure the view, spoiling precisely what they came here to enjoy. So I suggest that Pattaya is also losing tourists because of these low class market fairs along Beach Road, especially among return visitors to Thailand. Lots of tourists quickly learn they can do their bargain shopping at Pratunam or Mah Boon Krong in BKK, then go to Hua Hin, Koh Samet, Samui, etc. for a better overall vacation. Pattaya should find other, better ways to keep tourists coming here, rather than allowing more of these ill-advised market fairs.

There are already many fine events and festivals held along Beach Road to celebrate Pattaya’s international city status. These festivities draw tourists and boost the local economy, fair enough - but at a cost in periodic blockage of Beach Road, obscuring the otherwise wonderful view, and bringing on traffic snarl and all the associated pollution. So let’s try and keep a balance here. No more market fairs along Beach Road, please. Enough already!
Malone



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