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An honor for Mitr

Debating social commentary

A poem about transportation

The pimp should be jailed, not the customer

Local Race Info

Relationships rely on give and take

An honor for Mitr

Editor;

Mitr Chaibancha, the Thai cinema superstar, died near Jomtien Beach in a tragic fall from a helicopter while filming a movie in early October, 1970. For months the Kingdom mourned this son of a poor Petchaburi family. Today there is a shrine behind the Royal Jomtien Resort Hotel to mark the spot where he lost his life at the age of 36.

As the 30th anniversary of his passing approaches, it seems appropriate to further honor his memory by naming the small road that leads past his statue ‘Soi Mitr Chaibancha’. Mitr brought the Thai movie industry out of the 16mm days, appearing in more than 280 productions. He was a handsome, dashing and athletic hero who served in the Royal Thai Air Force, was a talented boxer and performed his own film stunts. His talent, patriotism and charisma will live forever in the hearts and souls of his many fans. Pattaya can and should honor this Thai Legend.

Otto Uebel, San Francisco

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Debating social commentary

Editor;

C. Schloemer’s ‘social commentary’ made some valid points but I wonder if the two archetypal depictions of bar-girls and their customers didn’t also add fuel to the western media-fire the article appeared to be attempting to dampen. Having done much intensive research since arriving in Thailand I can assure anyone who is interested that the “basket cases of poverty and problems” in the Thai sex trade, and of which there are indeed many, rarely work in the bars which Western women, or indeed men who visit Pattaya might just wander into. Sure the girls working the more obvious places might be looking to improve their standard of living but many are far more discriminating than is often portrayed.

Not so long back indeed more than a few had ‘good’ jobs in banks and offices and even more are worthy of better than the Western portrayal of a ‘prostitute’. There are of course many establishments catering for the male (or female) seeking company of one sort or another. This surfeit ensures that relatively few men will want to take a girl who makes it known they don’t want to go with the man and largely precludes exploitation at this level, at least of the girls themselves.

Western ‘conditioning’ stigmatizes sex to the extent opportunity to debate it seriously is limited. For this reason many Westerners, even those living in the East but in expat communities, digress. They simply cannot renounce the repression they’ve been subjected to since birth and talk from ivory towers of things about which they in fact know little. With all due respect to C. Schloemer, whether it be in Pattaya or Timbuktu it should be noted that no man buys a woman simply by giving her cash in return for providing sensual pleasure and any more so than him taking a girl out for a meal, be it one or ten times before managing to get down to the nitty-gritty makes her his property.

Am I mistaken but didn’t I detect a note of ‘elitism’ in this article? I would certainly be interested to hear just who it is the writer deems to comprise the many Western men in Pattaya who have “fallen on the dust heap”. Do these particular men know who they are?

Further on this article I would add that I have found the farang women of various ages who are now finding their way to Pattaya in dribs and drabs more able to accept the place for what it is and even appreciate it than many of their younger male counterparts who find disconcerting the obviation of ‘challenge’, the need to ‘chat a bird up’ or otherwise falsely impress to seduce her. Success in this manner you see makes it a victory over the female rather than a physical relief and which ‘achievement’ many men need to view it as to motivate themselves.

Any replies or comments from females in the farang community?

[email protected]

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A poem about transportation

Dear Sir,

The following is for your amusement and maybe help to cheer up your hard working day:

The Pattaya Mail throughout Eastern Seaboard comes to us via “Postage-snail”. But we rejoice to read the news from many a-voice with different views. In an isolated place amongst Northern Hills, with verdant foliage, fields where farmer tills. No news is known except from Pattaya Mail. Thus thanks to you and may you have good sales.

Transportation

Transportation is a means of carrying from one place to another.

Without it, it seems we’d be in rather a bother.

When a babe, in loving arms, or tucked snuggly in perambulator

In a “Knapsack” has its charms. Even on hip of elder sister.

When grown older, on buffalo’s back, or on mule or horse as ride.

In bullock cart with market pack. On howdah is a good ride.

Uphill carried in sedan-chair. Rickshaw pulled by man.

Rattling trams clanging bells, beware. Steam engine train also ran.

Seated on a buggy, horse bell rings. On bar of sweetheart’s bicycle.

Seat on tractor has no springs. Or squashed in manpowered tricycle.

Cruising over water can be fun. Especially in a yacht.

Via sampan is a slow run. On liner can cost a lot.

A speedboat gives a real thrill. A barge packed with chattel.

A ferry stopping at every rill. A warship ready for battle.

Thus transport is quite varied. Choose the means by which to travel.

On land or water you’ll be carried. Even flying is no marvel!

Have a good day!

Sincerely,

(Mrs) J. Srichandra

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The pimp should be jailed, not the customer

Editor;

I wrote a letter: “Beyond Belief” to Mailbag on August 18. Along comes Fearful, Frequent Falang with a reply to my letter: “Everyone Knew What They Were Doing” on August 25. I say Fearful because like me he didn’t want his name displayed in public. I’m sure Fearful didn’t want his name displayed for quite a different reason than mine. Fearful is truly a defender of the faith and a defender of police tactics. It’s quite clear he knows nothing about the law or even what it should be. He is also a rabid anti-ped to boot. If he wasn’t an anti-ped he wouldn’t have said, “but the Brit involved deserves absolutely no sympathy. I hope he is prosecuted and jailed IN THAILAND for a long time.” Frequent wasn’t so vehement when he said that the bar owner should only be jailed and his bar closed. It’s been my intention to show that the bar owner and the police should come under more criticism than the Brit.

If the police had followed what I regard as proper tactics, Leo’s Palace should have been closed and the owner should have been taken into custody long before the Brit arrived on the scene. You can’t tell me the police didn’t know what was going on because the bar had been under surveillance, or should have been, for some time. Surely the Crime Suppression Unit of the “Foreign” Center wasn’t looking for a single farang when they could have had the whole kit and caboodle. I understand the owner is also a foreigner.

The police didn’t get their priorities right. It’s as simple as that. We are made to think the Brit was the first order of business when it should have been the boy and the owner. I know they do things differently in Thailand, but even here the police should not be able to single out someone for arrest and ignore the larger problem. The bar owner is the larger problem and he got off relatively easy. In drug terminology he is the “pusher”. In prostitution terminology he is the “pimp”. Now under law which one gets the axe, the pusher-pimp or the client?

I have to say that such weird procedures take place not only in Pattaya. According to the Bangkok Post a bar in Patpong was raided and the customers jailed. Five days later the bar was again open for business.

I don’t think the Brit’s arrest is “almost guaranteed to stick” as Frequent Falang wants us to believe. If it does I will lose faith in the whole justice system. It’s the owner that should be in jail in THAILAND for a long time, and the police should get their priorities straight. I understand Leo’s is now open under another name.

I agree “Everybody Knew What They Were Doing”. I’m not so sure about Frequent Falang.

Not A Ped

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Local Race Info

Hi and Greetings from Finland!

I’m a hardcore motor racing fan as well as a true fan of Thailand. It was nice to read about the upcoming racing action from Bira Circuit but it would have been even nicer to hear about the results, too. I tried to find the results from the Bangkok Post without any luck. I think that people will get information about the F1 races anyway so it would be great to hear more from local car & motorcycle racing from you. This is just my opinion. Anyway, keep up the good work!

Regards,

Mr Petter Saarela

Editor replies: You are not alone in enjoying the local racing scene. To fill this need, our good Doctor Iain Corness does report on the results. Please check Pattaya Mail 8 September. And thank you for your continued support.

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Relationships rely on give and take

Editor;

David Rhodes should have a ‘heart to heart’ talk with Farooq who wrote to Hillary last week (Pattaya Mail 15th Sept). The pair of them could do a bar crawl around Pattaya having a Sprite at each call and poking fun at other ‘well-worn’, ‘living-dead’ patrons.

Mr. Rhodes tells us he’s merely pointing out that it’s important to retain a grasp on reality when assessing life in Pattaya. The reality he and no doubt others need to grasp is that anywhere a consensual relationship takes place between two (or more) people and no matter how brief it is relies upon give and take by those concerned. What is given and what is taken should remain the business of the parties and not be subject to the judgment of more, or less fortunate people. Which is which of course is an issue in itself, the former often only being the skeptically self-perceived notion of the latter.

The typical ‘western’ refusal to accept that there will always be financial consideration in man-woman liaisons shows at best incredible naivete. The hypocrisy pointed to in Cherie Schloemer’s letter is less kind though much more accurate. Mr. Rhodes’s inferred regret for not needing to rain on the parade of those poor sods who are unfortunate enough to have to remain here in bliss is entirely superfluous I think. The joke’s hardly on them! If they have re-written their ‘raison d’etre’ it’s probably because they found the one that was written for them untenable and refuse to live their lives by the double standards applied by Western mass-media mentality and those that read and absorb the bunkum. When he eventually comes to realize that no strong relationship is determined by an age/weight/size/looks maths equation and which characteristics in very many instances have little to do with a female’s regard of a man, Mr. Rhodes will be ready to dip his toes in the water. Until he grasps reality and whilst he presumes to be knowledgeable about the female psyche when like the rest of us he clearly hasn’t a clue about that oh so diverse phenomena, I’m afraid that with Farooq he’ll continue to wallow in his very overt and adolescent-minded (as opposed to young-minded) self doubt.

T. Crossley

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