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What does it take to get some peace and quiet?
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Doh!
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What’s the problem?
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Yes Leon but…
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Not well done Andy
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An every 90 days visitor
of the immigration offices
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What does it take to get some peace and quiet?
Editor;
What is it going to take to curtail noise pollution? Letters to the editor,
visits to the police department, and phone calls don’t help. Nobody wants to
interfere with established practice and custom, but when health information
surfaces that proves that excessive noise interferes with mental and
physical health then authorities should make every effort to make things as
quite, peaceful, and sane as possible. In this age there seems to be
absolutely no consideration for others.
I live in a condo next to a wat that includes a school and a crematorium. No
noise is kept undercover even though large assembly halls are available.
Funeral music is persistent, the morning exhortation from teachers is much
too loud. Boom boxes and loud speakers are spread throughout the wat
grounds. All this noise interferes with sleep and ordinary activities and
makes one irritable, angry, and certainly neurotic. If this isn’t enough
most stray dogs are housed in the parking lot near the condo. These poor
animals fight, bark, and howl all night.
It is not only in the school, the wat, and the crematorium. Noise pollution
can be found in many areas of Pattaya. If I may quote Mark Twain: “Noise
proves nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she had
laid an asteroid.”
Ray Standiford
Doh!

Editor;
Seen on 3rd road yesterday. What do those lines in the middle of the road
mean?
Regards,
Kevin
What’s the problem?
Dear Editor;
When I’m not in Thailand I call up the Pattaya Mail on my computer and the
first page I turn to is the Letters. Some of them make for very interesting
reading and always bring a smile to my face.
Particularly I have to smile each time I read the complaints regarding
‘double pricing’, ‘two-tier’ pricing which regularly appear on your letters
page. The biggest smile I reserve for those who complain about the baht bus
fares. Can these people not read? On every baht bus I’ve travelled on I have
read the notice behind the driver’s window facing into the bus which
indicates that the fare within Pattaya is ‘not more than 10 baht’. Okay, so
a Thai might only pay 5 baht, surely no-one can complain about a 25cent
journey. When I go to Jomtien, getting on in Pattaya I pay 20 baht as I
don’t consider 10 baht a decent remuneration, whether the bus is full or
empty. That’s 50 cents give or take. Taxis in America cost almost five bucks
just to open the door and sit down, if you are lucky, and then it is about
$1.25 for a fifth of a mile making $6.25 for that journey. With the hike in
gas prices at almost $2.50 a gallon, taxi rates will rise. So don’t complain
about having to pay a pittance for a decent journey.
I must live in a cocoon, though, as I cannot bring to mind any request for
me to pay ‘over the odds’ for things enjoyed by farangs or Thais. Some
suggest that visits to Nong Nooch or similar charge the farang more than the
Thai, so what, I generally book my trips through a wonderful agency in
Pattaya and I’m treated with kindness, courtesy and respect and am prepared
to pay the amount indicated for a wonderful experience.
I am in the fortunate position of being able to afford to pay for my
entertainment, travel, food, drinks and flights whereas some Thais have to
work all the hours in the day to make baht 100 ($2.50 a day!). Would we work
for that ? I think not!
So come on visitors, get the smiles back on your faces and show all those
greenback presidents to the exchange offices/banks and consider yourselves
well off in this beautiful Land of Smiles.
Timothy Gooding
Yes Leon but…
Editor;
Mr Leon Palmer made some accurate points about the influence of the Thai
government on tourism, although the hotels I stay at have always had water,
and power was never off for longer than a few minutes at most. I accept the
dual pricing as it is because it’s still cheap for me to stay in Thailand.
I also accept that crime is on the increase but it seems to be everywhere.
The only time I nearly became a victim was when confronted by a drunk farang
from the UK who thought he could go off with my girlfriend.
I know there is corruption all over the place and I get annoyed at the bars
closing when the Thai people have an election or something. But I can always
be prepared and stock up or drink in the hotel. If the bars shut early,
start early, etc.
However, it’s a pain when ‘once a year tourists’ push up the prices because
they have no idea of what things should cost. This is much worse in Samui
and Phuket than in Pattaya.
I will continue to visit Thailand 4 or 5 times a year as I have for the last
12 years. I love it, I love the people, I have friends I want to see and I
like the climate and the food and the diving and the nightlife and, and, I
could go on.
It would be better for me if some tourists who want to turn the Land of
Smiles (LOS) into a cheaper version of a western destination stayed away. Go
to Spain or Blackpool. Leave LOS for those of us who can cope with the
difference. That’s what we are here for. What you lose on the swings you
gain on the roundabouts.
Peter
York
UK
Not well done Andy
Editor;
Not well done Andy (Well done Jim letter to editor, Pattaya Mail -Vol. XI).
Pattaya it seems will never run out of its endless supply of fools like Andy
and Jim.
In twenty plus years as a visitor to Pattaya and part-time ex-pat I’ve never
paid more than 5 baht for a 5 baht ride. Why would I? (rhetorical) My finely
tuned system for avoiding confrontation has served me quite well for a long
time. Besides it is clearly stated on decals posted on most of the baht
busses that 5 baht is the legal fare.
As for the double pricing at various tourist sites and activities, I have no
problem with the ones that clearly state the price for farangs as double the
local citizen rate. That’s just the reality of the situation and I accept
it. If, however, a baht bus driver wants to throw a temper tantrum and show
his arse that’s his problem. After all, “losing face” means a lot more to
him than me. He should always feel free to call the local tourist police to
sort it out. That has happened twice to me with positive results both times.
Staying cool and pleasant while standing my ground seems to always serve
everyone involved well. They make plenty off of the numerous drunken and
sober, ignorant tourist that will gladly pay 200Bt. for a ride from Pattaya
Klang to Pattaya Tai.
The reasoning you used in your letter is completely flawed. The price of a
taxi ride has no correlation whatsoever with my level of income, even as
compared to Thais. Furthermore, I have “looked around” plenty and seen how
some of the Thais “have to live”. Obviously you have not “looked around”
with much depth at all or you would recognize that for the most part they
live the way they do by making ridiculous choices rather than by
circumstances beyond their control. “Putting an end to this embarrassing
topic of conversation” is wishful thinking on your part. As long as there
are those who won’t and those who will ... it will never cease.
Max
Rayong
An every 90 days visitor
of the immigration offices
Editor;
Jomtien Beach Road, Soi 5, is now an important thoroughfare because of the
post office and immigration offices, so is there anyone who can explain to
us why all the shops, bars and restaurants on this soi are allowed, not only
to use the pavement (sidewalk), but also one lane of the road as their
private property, to place all along it, day and night, their potted plants,
chairs, tables, signboards, etc., as if they were part of their business? As
a result, it is a one-way soi, and take care if you inadvertently try to
park your car on the business side.
Maxime
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