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Amazing Thailand’s two tier pricing

Enforce the laws on Pattaya 3rd Road as well

Trying to balance both sides of the argument

Thanks for Mali Cup coverage

Disappointed with Social Commentary

Amazing Thailand’s two tier pricing

Dear Editor;

While it is common for the private sector in Thailand to patronise two tier pricing I am considerably more irritated when the government follows suit. My Thai wife and I have made 9 or 10 trips to the Northern part of Thailand over the last 16 years, usually starting in Chiang Mai. We have always had a great time visiting the various temples, caves, waterfalls, etc., from Chiang Mai up to the Myanmar border and surrounding areas by motorcycle.

This year’s trip was spoiled by the unexpected surprise when we learned National Parks, which on past trips had been free or only charged us 20 baht for the motorcycle entry, are now expecting a 200 baht entrance fee for foreigners (100 baht for children) but only 20 baht for Thai’s! In what National Parks in what country are Thai’s treated with this sort of blatant discrimination? Personally, I refuse to pay this 1000% increase over the locals.

I see numerous mentions of the Thailand Tourist Authority making efforts to get more foreign families to come to Thailand. Well, with this sort of discrimination continuing here I cannot see how this will ever happen. A couple with only two children would be forking over 600 baht each time they visit a National Park.

I also have a problem understanding what constitutes a National Park in Thailand? Many of these places offer plenty of wide open spaces but the so called waterfall may be little more than a small stream (depending on what time of the year one enters the park). Koh Samet, one of many Thai islands, also is designated a National Park and a foreigner is expected to pay 200 baht just to lie on the beach here! A National Park full of bungalows?!

With this sort of logic, why stop here? The government could make even more short term baht by designating other beaches such as Patong Beach, Jomtien Beach, and the various other beaches in Thailand National Parks and drive off the foreigners even quicker!

Disgusted,

Scott Benson

Pattaya, Chonburi

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Enforce the laws on Pattaya 3rd Road as well

Dear Sir,

May we draw to your attention the noise coming from the karaoke bars situated on Pattaya Third Road and in particular in the close proximity to Soi 17.

We are under the impression that there are supposed to be laws governing the level of noise emitted from places of entertainment in Pattaya City, as well as closing times.

We are aware that by serving the odd plate of ‘Cowpat or Tomyum’ said businesses can avoid the 2 a.m. closing laws which are supposedly to prevent places of entertainment from emitting nerve-shattering music to the detriment of other local residents.

These laws and regulations are being blatantly ignored to the inconvenience of residents living nearby who have to suffer nerve-shattering music from 17.00hrs to 05.00 or sometimes even later in the mornings.

This results in not only severe lack of sleep by residents but also it has a devastating effect on local guesthouses and condominium rental businesses where guests and long term rental clients are refusing to put up with the noise and are moving to alternative locations.

We don’t see why, when there are supposed to be such strict (and regularly publicized) laws governing the noise emitted from karaoke bars in general, the police have not taken steps already to enforce these laws. After all, that is what the police are supposed to spend their time doing isn’t it - enforcing laws in Pattaya?

Please treat this letter as An Official Letter of Complaint, and we would be obliged if you could take such steps as necessary to ensure that said karaoke and other bars that are located in the above stated positions are made to adhere to the laws of Pattaya.

Thanking you in anticipation of your help in this matter.

Yours sincerely,

Residents of Yensabai Condominium

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Trying to balance both sides of the argument

Sir,

The 30/3 issue of Pattaya Mail was a bonanza so far as the gay festival was concerned. 80% of Mailbag was dedicated as was 100% Grapevine and ‘Social Commentary’ too.

Though some ‘fors’ make it a sexual preference issue the thrust of the debate revolves around a public parade. The ‘for’ case is very simple; good-cause funds are to be raised. The ‘againsts’ imply this is pure sophistry; that fund-raising events being entirely separate and un-protested a parade is merely to excuse a public, self-congratulatory pat on the bott. There are two lines of attack, the 1st being that whether it be male gender ‘shaking their tail feather’ or female ‘jiggling their jugs’; such a parade is tasteless. The ‘fors’ counter that this is a staid, killjoy attitude and that in any event a taste issue is a non-starter in Pattaya - that the resort has never been a venue for the sexually prudent whatever their orientation.

Who in all fairness can rebut that argument? One writer unwisely pointed to hetero crudity in some sections and seemingly to imply it would mitigate the same from the gay side.

Another though more relevantly pointed out that sex and sleaze do not have to go hand in hand. That ‘nice’ and ‘sleazy’ being synonymous at some mentality levels is not a sexuality issue. Conclusion? Given that some of the establishments involved appear to be among the most stylish in Pattaya, until my faith proves misplaced the ‘taste’ issue for me swings in favour of the ‘fors’.

The 2nd ‘against’ line holds more water. That had a festival been dedicated to Pattaya’s ‘openness’ and the whole community given the opportunity to participate even more funds could have been raised. This argument has not been addressed by any ‘fors’. Surely not even the staunchest advocate could argue that a ‘gay’ festival would improve the image of Pattaya in the eyes of existing critics. The more successful the festival is in fact and the more triumphal exultation is heard outside the gay communities, the more counter-productive to tourism will be there. One cannot help but have noticed that even mild criticism along this line has met with rebukes of ‘ignorant’, ‘boring’, ‘alarmist’, ‘homophobic’ to mention a few. Intolerance of criticism is a two way street and will do the gay ‘acceptance’ cause no good at all. Neither will pointing to ‘gay pride’ parades held in gay AIDS capitals of the world. Conclusion? In their self-oriented motivation the festival organizers set their sights far too low. Most of the divisiveness that has clearly manifested could have been averted and ‘againsts’ score here.

The bottom line? Sexual apartheid just like the usual sort is socially debilitating to all. It needs to be diluted not augmented. A point for the Pattaya Festival organizers to remember for next year perhaps?

Tony C. (Pattaya Resident)

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Thanks for Mali Cup coverage

Dear Sirs,

Thank you for your very comprehensive report on the Mali Cup Junior tennis tournament. As I wrote last year to complain about the lack of coverage of tennis in Pattaya it was nice to see you had remembered this important event in the Thai tennis calendar and to see that you even put the world junior ranking in of the winner.

Many of those competing will be over in England for the I.T.F. junior tournaments starting here in a month’s time culminating with junior Wimbledon. Hopefully we will see the Thai juniors do well this year.

Thanks again for the report, I look forward to reading more coverage of any events taking place in Pattaya.

TC tennis fan

England

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Disappointed with Social Commentary

Dear Editor;

I would first like to complement Pattaya Mail for the service you provide this community and, via your web site, those living elsewhere who are interested in the news and happenings around the Eastern Seaboard of Thailand. I have been a faithful reader, both while in Pattaya and on-line when traveling, and have never felt that your editorial and reporting management was biased regarding nationalities or cultures. I also feel that you are especially in-tune with the multi-national cultural aspects of the populace visiting or resident in this beautiful region. However, I feel compelled to express my disappointment in your acceptance and publication of Khun Khai Khem’s “Social Commentary” contribution to your 13 April 2001 edition entitled “America’s Murderous Children”.

My concern is centered on the philosophy of the Pattaya Mail’s goals and objectives with regard to your editorial comments. It appears that Khun Khai’s article is aimed at discrediting a specific country and its people. Not only is the article full of obvious erroneous information and slander, it is also insulting to all people who have a common desire to get along with each other and treat each other fairly. It also appears that Khun Khai’s comments are intended to negatively portray a society that he apparently has never visited. He even strays from his subject in order to further cast his malice. All societies and cultures have problems and America is no different.

The article is littered with vague/false innuendos, stereotype information, sarcastic comments and exaggerations. I have been a regular reader of “Social Commentary” and have found it to be interesting and informative. But after reading this erroneous article the integrity and usefulness of the past and future Khun Khai articles are left in doubt. I have listed below just a few of the many comments in Khun Khai’s “Commentary” that are judgmental, contradictory, negative and erroneous. My comments follow in parenthesis.

“There are American’s who make a quarter of a million dollars a year who cannot afford a house, and insurance for their car is more expensive than their home mortgage payment.” (If they cannot afford a house (wrong), there is no mortgage payment. In addition, his comment stating that car insurance in America is more expensive than a home mortgage payment is untrue except in rare cases involving a very low cost home and an extremely poor driving record.)

“Most young couples don’t bother to marry legally anymore” and ... “the divorce rate now for American couples is about 65%.” (These erroneous comments imply that over 50% of American couples now live their life, raise their families, work, pay taxes, and contribute to their communities as non-married “friends and lovers” and of the remaining minority, 65% get divorced. Nowhere in my research could I even come close to these figures.)

“Don’t forget, in this country (USA, my note), the family dog probably has a therapist.” (This ridiculous comment does not deserve or require a response).

“Americans appear to know more about where their coffee beans come from, Sumatran or Colombian, than what their kids are doing when they are out of sight.” (Although there may be small minority who may have this type of priority, it certainly does not apply to all Americans as Khun Khai states.)

“A simple lifestyle in the USA is not admired, it is scorned.” (This comment is absurd. The vast majority of Americans do lead a simple lifestyle, are happy and contented with their lives, are respected within their communities, and lead a “simple lifestyle”. Internal scorn for a simple lifestyle is far from the truth in the American culture.)

While some of Khun Khai’s comments might be true in some of America’s large cities, for example, they are not indicative of the entire country, just as observations about the life and scene in Pattaya are not indicative of Thailand as a whole.

Don

Pattaya

Khai Khem responds: Reader Don’s comments on “America’s Murderous Children” (PM 13 April) deserve a sincere and thoughtful reply. Firstly, I thank him for his previous good opinion of my columns up until now. I would like to quote a great American writer, teacher and humanist, Saul Bellow once wrote: “Openness-and the great relativism that makes it the only plausible stance in the face of various claims to truth and various ways of life and kinds of human beings, is the great insight of our times”. The views on which America was founded were that; by recognising and accepting man’s natural rights, men found a fundamental basis of unity. Class, race, religion, national origin or culture need not be a reason for division. Fortunately, today those great ideas have nurtured multi-culturism throughout the world.

A writer frequently assumes an intimacy with readers that in fact does not always exist. In print, there is often only once chance to get it right. Lampooning is a tricky art. For Reader Don, I apparently need to improve that craft. Instead of wit, he interpreted my jokes as racist and ethnocentric misinformation. However narrow the margin between making a reader smile, and giving offence, I am ultimately responsible for making my point clear. Either I do, or I do not. Feedback from my readers is always welcome. Without them, I have no reason to put pen to paper. With that in mind, I do thank Don for his letter to our editor.

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