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Not all bar girls poor and innocent

Number one visa run

Money from a hole in the wall

Two-way Second Road

Not all bar girls poor and innocent

Editor;

The 2 responses to the letter by Mr. “Losing faith in Thailand” both missed something. He insults all Thai women by suggesting that all Thai women are as money hungry and pathetic as bar girls, because it is impossible for him to find a respectable Thai woman. I wonder where he is meeting these women, and how he goes about establishing a relationship. Might I suggest, judging from the obvious ignorance and negative attitude, that if he were ever to run into a respectable Thai lady, she would have nothing to do with him. I doubt that he knows the difference between a respectable Thai lady and a prostitute any more than the guy who got arrested for grabbing a saleswoman’s breast in Royal Garden Plaza. And why is he complaining? He claims he doesn’t come here to meet women anyway!

As for Martin, the bar owner, he paints a picture of all these poor, helpless girls, with few other choices of making a “livable wage” doing anything other than bar work. Well thanks to guys like him for providing such a valuable income resource so that these girls and their families don’t starve to death! I doubt that Martin just fell off the turnip truck, and I will not speculate on any possible motives for the somewhat skewed and misleading picture he paints of the plight of his bargirl employees. Much of what he says is true, but there is always a problem when generalizing because there are so many variations and exceptions. I’d say it is a fair estimate that more than half of the girls have a child whom they support, who is being taken care of by their parents upcountry. Some send money back home for siblings for school so they can have a better future. Many do send most of their earnings back home, but that definitely isn’t the majority. Most send something, but it is a much smaller percentage of their overall earnings than they would lead people to believe. Anybody who doubts this, including Martin, just ask for proof, such as money transfer receipts or bank deposit receipts.

The fact is that the majority of the girls spend most of their money on themselves, whether it be clothing, makeup, tattoos, entertainment, mobile phones, or gold jewelry - which they can always sell or pawn if they ever run short of cash, or beauty salons for things like having all their eyebrows tweezed out and painted back on.

Of course there are many girls who deserve sympathy and have few options, but they are not all as helpless, option less, and desperate as some people assume. Some like their jobs because of the money and independence they have, and don’t want to do anything else. I know one smart one who saved all her money from 2 years of bar work and bought herself a house in a nice subdivision in Pattaya. There are also those who live off money sent from overseas regularly from one or more of their farang boyfriends (I know one who had 4), so they “don’t have to work in the bar”, and only work in the bar because they’re bored and want to be with their friends.

Many have Thai boyfriends they support, or spend their money on drugs such as yaba, whether to lose weight, stay awake for their double shifts (an option some bar owners generously provide), or to make it easier to stomach going out with an undesirable customer. As for a “livable wage”, some “busy” girls make 30,000 to 50,000 baht per month. I personally know of some who have an average of over 3 short-times a day! (These are every bar owner’s favorite employees.)

Granted, not all can make that much, but the incomes most of them make can buy many avenues to get out of the bars if they wanted to, and still have enough to send to their parents. There are also plenty of girls who send no money back home, but tell everybody they do, especially their customers, because they get better tips for making up stories like that, among others. And nobody talks about the common situations of the parents who don’t really need the money, but simply stop working their farms or other jobs, and just live of the money their daughter sends them; or those who gamble or drink away any money they get.

As for education, almost all the girls have the option to take courses to learn computers or English to improve themselves. Knowledge of English opens up many well paying employment opportunities outside the bar scene, even without much formal education. (By the way, employment is commonly found through word of mouth and posted notices, not only newspapers.) But they don’t take classes because they are typically lazy, tend to live day-to-day, or just aren’t interested. They would rather spend their free time going to discos, the beach, drinking, wasting money, or just hanging out with their friends. Just ask the language schools - if a girl takes classes, it’s usually a farang boyfriend who is paying and pushing her to go. If they break up, the girl stops going, even if she has a bunch of classes already paid for in advance (and no school ever gives refunds).

And if bar owners like Martin really care about the girls’ futures, why don’t they try providing a daily 1 hour free English lesson for all girls beginning an hour before work every day? There could be some incentive provided, or it could just be part of their job. They could have their salary cut if they don’t show up or do their homework, just like they have it cut for being late, not dancing, or not showing up for work.

J. Prell

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Number one visa run

Editor;

I recently had to go on a visa run to Kampuchea. After reading an ad in the Pattaya Mail for a company called Number One Visa Run, I decided to give them a try. I have to say that they were very impressive. They picked me up from my home at 5:30 a.m., drove me to the border then had me back at home by 3:00 p.m. Up to now I have had to go down to Malaysia and that has always been a hassle and taken a couple of days. This time everything was hassle free and done the same day. The border crossing was easy with the passport control being really cordial. I have to recommend this company to anyone requiring a new visa.

Regards,

Mark Longstreath

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Money from a hole in the wall

Editor;

Many falang have written in and complained about various situations they have experienced whilst in Pattaya. From the entrance fee of an establishment being e.g. 20 baht for Thai & 250 baht for falang, to the constant complaints of Thai women not being sincere, and running off with falang money or assets. I am a falang who has worked here in the eastern province for more than 6 years. In defence of the Thai women who after all are only doing a job of work, the Thai guy is equally as bad, with “rip off’s” in the work place.

Come on guys if you’re working or retired, or doing a bit of both, use the old grey matter between the ears. You can live in Pattaya cost effectively, treat the women to a bit of gold now and again, take them for a meal - keep your money in the Channel Islands or certainly out of Thailand, don’t deal with the banks, don’t borrow money, get yourself a direct debit card and draw money when you need it from the hole in the wall (no interest on D.D. Cards).

Stop complaining, you can have a great life if you keep it together, take a leaf from the MPs & Ministers of Thailand, successful businessmen & women, these people should set an example for the rest to follow, and they do - “Bank outside Thailand”, it’s the only safe option.

To quote a Thai person recently, “It’s ok for the falang, he can just go to the hole in the wall, and it gives him money,” unquote.

Remember, in Pattaya its 95% a big game. Enjoy it, stop complaining and it’s the best place in the world if you’ve half a brain.

“No Worries”

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Two-way Second Road

Dear Sir,

When Pattaya Second Road was re-surfaced (between Pattaya South Rd and Pattaya Klang) some years ago, new road markings indicated a proposed two-way road - this impression was strengthened by the installation of a set of traffic lights, facing north, at the Pattaya South Rd and Second Rd intersection.

I was informed at the time that the implementation of the two-way road depended upon the successful acquisition of the liquor store, facing north, at the junction of Pattaya Klang and Second Road, thus enabling the road to be widened at that point. This would give a clear run from Naklua to Jomtien along Second Road, leaving Beach Road to be turned into a “Walking Street” in the evenings from, say Mike Mall to the Marine Bar during the high season and holidays.

Yours,

Douglas Rosario

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