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Dual pricing not a statute of law
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Use your voice - or lose it
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As a Matter of “Fact”
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Petty thieves - or a threat to your well being?
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Conspiracy Theory
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A local issue?
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Anti social behaviour
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Dual pricing not a statute of law
Dear Sir,
The statement by Chamlong Sukprom, president of the Pattaya Transport
Co-operative (Page 2. Pattaya Mail, Friday, June 23) “that foreign tourist
fares (on baht buses) are higher than normal fares because the value of the
Thai baht and foreign currencies are different” beggars belief! Perhaps he
would be kind enough to quote the relevant section of the Department of Land
Transport regulations which sanctions this discriminatory practice? Nor is
the claim that “most tourist cities have the same pricing strategies” a
justification.
Come clean, Khun Chamlong: this is nothing more than an attempt to justify
the behaviour of a significant number of your members who do not adhere to
the tariff that by law should be displayed in the songtaew they are driving.
Perhaps, Khun Chamlong, you are unaware that the double pricing on baht
buses is one of the most contentious issues for foreign visitors and
residents alike and has been well documented in the local media. If you are
sincere in your wish to preserve the good image of Pattaya tourism, may I
suggest that you forthwith instruct your members to adhere to the official
tariff without exception.
Yours faithfully,
Robert Patnicroft
Use your voice - or lose it
Dear Pattaya Mail
Condo owners would like to know why some developers act like they are a law
unto themselves. They seem to have no desire whatsoever to open up and
communicate with owners. Secrecy seems to be the name of the game. It has
been that way for years. These actions by developer are highly improper and
probably illegal, especially when nothing gets done. Common areas are a mess
and questions about financial reports have been avoided and audit accounts
have never been produced.
In some cases there have been no general meetings of owners for years. If
there were, I’m sure they would like to complain about some of the
following: New corridor floors are needed, walls need to be painted,
elevators need to be repaired or else replaced, the lobby looks like a
construction zone, some aspects of security are highly unsatisfactory, the
parking lots have too many cars and motorbikes. (With innumerable private
businesses it is understandable the this would be the case.) There are many
luxury condos but they exist in the midst of squalor. There has been no
moratorium. Drilling and renovation takes place year round.
Some owners are willing to take matters to court, but they know they would
be up against developers with influence, power, and enough money to head off
any inquiry. Owners living under intimidation have not been willing, under
the circumstances, to shell out money for legal services or to wait for
years for a court session. I would think that many fearful attorneys have
been approached.
Agencies need to take a good hard look at the buildings and scrutinize condo
records. Condo laws and regulations also need to be revised and simplified
and available. If an agency of the government makes an inspection and finds
the actions of the developer legal and not responsible for existing
conditions then more owners should voice their opposition. If they don’t,
they might as well pack their bags and leave.
Voicing my Opposition, Pattaya
As a Matter of “Fact”
Editor
Many things could be said about the letter from T. Crossley (Mailbag 30
June: “A matter of opinion”) but I will gladly contain myself to a few
aspects of it.
He wants “facts”. He writes deridingly about others’ letters as appearing to
“know it all when they need to realize that they know nothing.” Isn’t this
letter a big, mean show of hypocrisy?
He proceeds to supply us with “facts” and wrote for instance that “According
to notices issued by the Department of Land Transport the fare for a minibus
/baht bus/is not more than 10 baht per person.” And from there T. Crossley
went on to lecture us in an extremely naive way. Was this “facts”? Shall we
take this seriously? I know I don’t.
If T. Crossley could read more carefully he would have noticed that the sign
he refers to is NOT issued by the Department of Land Transport but is
written by the “Baht Bus Cooperative” themselves - Factually! It is
considered by some of those who “know it all” as a corrupt way to tell that
the legal fare is 5 baht inside Pattaya and 10 baht going to Jomtien or
Naklua - and that is - believe it or not - independent of race, origin,
skin-colour or national status etc!
Certainly, an intervention by the Department of Land Transport would be most
welcome. Once, around 1998 that authority forced baht-buses to carry the
signs of the legal fares but the drivers eliminated them within a weak. Some
time ago, T. Crossley and others interested in facts could have read in
Bangkok Post (21 Apr. 2005) that “The Land Transport Department plans to
tighten its enforcement of price controls on bus fares, especially at
tourist resorts and attractions” ... “Bus operators found guilty of
illegally jacking up prices will face prosecution” ... “Bus operators are
required by law to post signs clearly listing fares and the drivers personal
data onboard their buses in both Thai and English.”
As far as I know that has not happened since a short try in 1998. Having
read the above, has T. Crossley got any further comments about his way of
presenting “facts”?
N. Anakha-Lindt
Petty thieves - or a threat
to your well being?
After the very well publicized murder and robbery of an
English resident in the Mabprachan area and the subsequent report that the
police had successfully apprehended the alleged culprits, the residents
around Mabprachan should now be relaxed.
However, they now live under the constant threat of burglaries!! Recently
about 6 houses within Mabprachan Gardens and 7 to 8 houses in Nattikarn
Estate have been broken into. These thefts have taken place at various times
of the day and night without any apparent fear of the residents being in
their houses or not. Items stolen in general range from mobile phones,
jewellery, money etc... which are easy to carry, but please be warned. These
robbers are getting more and more daring, culminating in them taking a
pick-up from one house in Nattikarn on Saturday night! Their blatant daring
robberies suggest they are quite fearless, which is extremely dangerous for
anyone confronting them.
So please warn all readers to be careful and put away all valuables and
definitely avoid tackling these people. One needless death is already one
too many.
Concerned Resident
Conspiracy Theory
Dear Sir,
It is not anger that makes me anti military, more like the energy of a
mother seeing her kid running into the street - “Stop!”
With a few days study in a good library or the Internet, anyone can find out
that there are secret groups of people who make money off all wars and enjoy
seeing people suffer and who have been in power in this world for thousands
of years.
There are hints of it in The Matrix and Da Vinci Code films: powerful,
secret, gargoyle worshipping, blood lusting, semi-humans.
They tell the “history”, control the “news” and give us a vision of the
world that has evil around every corner.
They create wars; Pearl Harbor was staged to get the U.S. into WWII; “Gulf
of Tonkin incident “concocted” for the Vietnam war.
Do you remember last Sept in Basra, Iraq? Two British spies were caught
dressed in Iraqi clothes, shooting at Iraq police! (Later freed from prison
by British tanks)
World Trade Center-events everyday, bombs planted in buildings, American Air
Force told to stand down by Dick Cheney, Bali, London et al. Governments
concerned full of lies.
“Have you stopped beating your wife/husband” is just a phrase to open a
discussion.
Ronald Urbina
A local issue?
Dear Sir,
Ian’s latest letter (Disloyalty to your readers) is a letter too far.
His point seems to be that stupid farangs getting into trouble, harassed,
ripped off or assaulted isn’t really important enough to take up the letters
page of Pattaya Mail.
Like Ian I live in London. My local paper is the Hampstead and Highgate
Express a well established and respected paper. The area it serves is noted
for its champagne socialists, psychoanalysts, writers, artists, media
personalities, ageing rock stars and footballers. With the exception of the
last couple of groups listed the paper caters for one of the most educated
and articulate readerships in the country.
So what matters monopolise the letters page? The decline of English theatre?
The inadequacies of Freud’s methodology? The demise of socialism? Well no
I’m afraid not. What concerns locals are local issues however trivial they
appear to outsiders.
Those concerns include: parking, dogs on the Heath, cyclists on the Heath,
the closure of swimming pools, crime and parking (again). I almost look
forward to the day when a resident is assaulted by a lady boy on the Heath.
So come on Ian, enough is enough. Local issues matter to local people. They
may seem trivial, even ludicrous (often they are) but they affect the
quality of life in Pattaya and as such are important enough to feature in
Mailbag.
Nigel, London
Anti social behaviour
Dear Sir
There used to be a sign at Phuket Airport that stated that persons of a
hippy appearance would be denied entry into the kingdom. Surely this should
now be amended to persons of hooligan appearance, as some of the louts now
roaming around Pattaya would be refused admission to most places outside of
prison.
I have been coming here for fifteen years but unless something is done and
quickly, I and many others will not be back. The police should take a zero
tolerance approach to anti social behaviour as these people will take a mile
if given an inch.
A start could be made by taking down all those ridiculous English flags that
make Soi Buakhoa look like a Nuremburg rally. We are in Thailand for God’s
sake. Being British myself I can see the way things will end up here and
believe me Pattaya ... you do not want to see it
John Flintman
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