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Happy to learn to live to learn

Immigration - A very different experience

Obstructive access on Jomtien Soi 4

Beware of youth motorcycle gangs in Pattaya

Teenagers in Pattaya being misled

Pickpockets target Pattaya baht taxis

Cartoon reality

Update on strange shopping experience

Card game is a simple answer

Happy to learn to live to learn

Dear Editor,
I am writing about George Benedikt’s weekly Column “Learn to Live to Learn”. I must say that I am utterly delighted by this recent addition to the already excellent Pattaya Mail! As a parent living in the Eastern Seaboard, I couldn’t find Mr Benedikt’s articles more relevant.

Over the past 4 years that I have been living here with my wife and two sons, I have had many problematic experiences with international schools and the people who run them. I am sad to say that I have met people very much like the ones Mr Benedikt sometimes describes in his articles, but fortunately, people can now be warned about such people!

It is good that now finally someone is talking about those issues that we parents often think about but are afraid to raise for fear of our children being victimised and treated unfairly by the school. It is true that when you’re being shown around a school, it is sometimes difficult to question what they are saying, especially if you know that they are not being totally truthful.
Bravo to Mr Benedikt and the Pattaya Mail!
Perhaps some international schools, or indeed all schools, could learn from The Beatles? After all, like their famous song suggests, “All you need is love”.
Pleased as Punch


Immigration - A very different experience

Sir,
Having read the various letters in Pattaya Mail recently regarding experiences at Pattaya Immigration, it was with some trepidation that I presented myself there last Monday morning for my annual Retirement Visa renewal.

Duly armed with all the required papers and documents as very helpfully specified on the Pattaya Immigration website, I waited at the desk clearly marked ‘Retirement Visa’ until I was indicated to present myself to the man at the desk.

I handed over my papers and sat down whilst he scrutinized them. He then asked me for the fee of 1,900 baht (which is the correct amount) and I handed over two 1,000 baht notes, promptly receiving 100 baht back in change. No hint or other suggestion of any additional sum was ever even intimated at.

After some time I was handed a small card and told to return the following afternoon.

On so doing I went to the desk of a lady captain who smilingly handed me back my passport with my new one year visa duly stamped in it.

All done promptly and efficiently and with no hassle or no request of ‘tea’ money; in fact no problem whatsoever.

The fact that I had researched and made sure I had all the required documents and met all the qualifications (e.g. money, age, etc.), went dressed like a human being, i.e. not formally but with a proper shirt and trousers, acted like a human being, spoke politely and softly, and observed the usual polite courtesies – this couldn’t possibly explain why my experience was so different from your other correspondents – or could it?
Yours,
Peter Wheeler


Obstructive access on Jomtien Soi 4

Dear Mailbag,
As a regular visitor to Pattaya I normally stay near the action on Beach Road but for a change a looked at Jomtien. I found a most agreeable hotel in Soi 4 on Jomtien Beach. The only problem was that I simply could not drive in and out of Soi 4 without a problem. For some inexplicable reason there are food trucks parked bang in the middle of the road at the junction with Jomtien Beach Road.

At night the problem escalates with the arrival of double the amount of carts and I simply don’t try to get out directly as it is impossible and the vendors appear a little aggressive if I do try, so I take a frustrating detour through Soi 3 or 5.

Here is the strange bit; neither Soi 3 or 5 has this problem; they have exactly the same pattern of access but it is always clear night and day. I have been here long enough to know that nothing is for nothing and somebody somewhere is taking some rent from these people but this is the public highway! There also appears to be some rather dubious looking electrical connections around the vicinity of these carts. I asked the manager of the hotel who simply shrugged and said “we’ve tried”. Apart from this Jomtien Beach does it for me.
Best Wishes,
Ian R Blyth (Ireland)


Beware of youth motorcycle gangs in Pattaya

Editor;
At the risk of sounding like an alarmist, I decided I needed to share the following experiences with my farang friends who may drive on the roads of Thailand.

I had a disturbing experience last evening when turning off south bound Sukhumvit onto Soi Khotalo here in Pattaya. As I rounded the corner I saw the road was blocked by several motorcycles parked askew with lights on and folks running about. At least one pickup was attempting to get by the motorcycles and drivers. The crowd was shouting, pounding on the windows and kicking the doors of the pickup hard enough to cause denting. Obviously there was some kind of ugly confrontation going on. I didn’t see any weapons, thank goodness. I got past the area as quickly as possible without harm. I have to admit I was frightened for myself and family, however.

Additionally, a couple times in the past month on Sukhumvit I’ve come across large numbers of young Thai motorcyclists (like 50+) in a gang convoy going slowly to block motorists then cutting recklessly back and forth across the road, obviously hassling them and daring them react somehow. I’ve backed off and gotten away from those scenes as quickly and covertly as possible too. I’ve heard reliable reports that it’s popular lately for these young hoodlums to carry handguns, home made and using 12 gage shotgun shells.

In five years of driving all over Thailand, these are new experiences and are quite disturbing. Since the city doesn’t provide any substantial alternative activities for the local kids, and police don’t seem up to controlling these gang situations, I offer a ‘heads-up’ for those of you who may confront similar situations.

Don’t mess with or challenge these kids. It’s not worth it.
Bobby


Teenagers in Pattaya being misled

Dear Editor,
I wish to voice my opinion as follows:

Our neighboring country, Singapore is considered to be one of the city-states in the world with the lowest crime rates.

I would recommend the concerned city officials to carefully study its system, comparing the differences & similarities between the 2 societies and identify the main reasons as why Pattaya has not been successful in getting rid off the unwanted crimes committed by teenagers in this small but messy society.

Singapore’s official takes careful measures to protect the growth of its youth to ensure that these young people will be able to develop themselves into strong individuals with ability to become the backbone of the nation; for example, they implement strict media censorship, strong education level, extra curriculum activities (ECA) / sports compulsory for all students … while our youth are constantly exposed to the harmful factors and attractive nightlife after school hours which will mislead them in the wrong direction.

What we have read from the news headlines is actually the end-result of the problem which we failed to handle properly in the first place. The task is a tough one but we should never let the problem worsen over the period of times.

I believe that the primary concern and focus for us and the city’s official should be the safety and health issue of the public. Instead of concentrating on multi-million baht projects for the time being, I would like to propose to the governor to tackle the root cause of all problems in the society, which are:
- Education
- Safety & health related issue
Thank you,
A Thai national


Pickpockets target Pattaya baht taxis

Editor;
I was pick-pocketed on a baht taxi 2 days ago. I discovered 2 more cases in the last 3 days simply by word of mouth, so it could just be the tip of the iceberg.

All the cases involve 2 girls and a couple with a baby. They sit unusually close to you, even when the taxi is not crowded. Their technique is to distract you with conversation or passing the baby between them. They seem to be boarding the taxi near Royal Garden Plaza on 2nd Road. A friend of mine noticed the loss, confronted them, and found his wallet underneath the baby.

So be warned: Don’t carry anymore money than you need for your night’s or day’s entertainment or shopping. Secure your wallet well. Be very, very alert if anything out of the ordinary is happening that distracts your attention. Sit at the rear of the taxi if possible, where you are least exposed to prying fingers during the journey and as you exit.

Perhaps some of the farang volunteer Tourist Police could act as decoys to catch these criminals. They must be stealing thousands of baht per day, and leaving many tourists with a very bad impression of Pattaya.
Robert,
North Pattaya


Cartoon reality

Dear Sir,
The cartoon Pattaya Vultures (24th Sept) is very apt. However, the efforts of the city police to control these pests is unjust. I say this from a tourist’s observation, as I recently saw on Jomtien Beach a “chase” to catch one of these sellers. When caught his wares of food were confiscated and the police simply drove off (perhaps it was a co-incidence that it was tea-time). The poor victim was left without wares, money or even a court appearance just because he was slower at running than all his compatriots who continued their beach selling. Surely such confiscation (stealing) is illegal in Thailand without proper justice procedures and free meals for the police at the expense of the poor should be stopped. I was pleased to give the seller a “donation” for his rough justice.
Colin Manvell (England)


Update on strange shopping experience

Editor;
Blisstel did finally reply to my question regarding the copying of credit cards when making a purchase over 10000 baht. They have told me that it is not a company policy but rather a bank policy that requires them to ask to copy a credit card as well as the ID when the customer makes a purchase over B10000. I contacted my card company and was told by their security department that this is an unsafe practice and recommended that I shop elsewhere. Once again, at least Blisstel paid me the courtesy of a reply.
Dennis Bird

Banchang, Rayong


Card game is a simple answer

Editor;
Regarding the recent letters complaining about increased crime in Pattaya and lack of police interest, may I offer a simple suggestion? If you are unfortunate enough to be victimized by these punks, when calling the police do not state you are or were a victim of a burglary or violent crime. You’ll be lucky if maybe 1 or 2 cops show up several hours later. No, the only way to get an immediate and overwhelming response is to report to the police some sort of gambling taking place in your home. A simple card game with ten baht on the table reported will result in a truckload of police at your door in a matter of minutes.
Scott Benson

Pattaya


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